Re: Of of
From: | taliesin the storyteller <taliesin-conlang@...> |
Date: | Saturday, April 1, 2006, 20:20 |
* Peter Bleackley said on 2006-03-28 10:27:09 +0200
> Consider a language where the genitive construction is of the form
> PARTICLE POSSESSOR POSSESSED /snip/
AFMCL:
(1) The King's horse
(2) The King's knight's horse
Since all three nouns are animate, this is very easy in Taruven:
(1) King te horse /
horse te King
(2) King te knight te horse /
King te horse te knight /
knight te King te horse /
knight te horse te King /
horse te King te knight /
horse te knight te King
As you might have noticed from example 2) above, "te" doesn't build a
hierarchy of who own who, since animates can't be owned in Taruven and
hence cannot be part of such a hierarchy.
Now in the original example 2, King modifies knight which modifies
horse, therefore giving more focus to the horse. In Taruven you'd have
to use an emphasis-prefix on horse to achieve the same thing.
It becomes more interesting with only inanimate nouns though:
(1) the cloud's color
(2) the sky's cloud's color
Which would be (the underline marks morpheme-boundaries):
(1) cloud_GEN+ color_GEN- /
color_GEN- cloud-GEN+
(2) sky_GEN+ cloud_GEN+_GEN- color_GEN- /
sky_GEN+ color_GEN-_GEN- cloud_GEN+_GEN- /
cloud_GEN+_GEN- sky_GEN+ color_GEN-_GEN- /
cloud_GEN+_GEN- color_GEN- sky_GEN+ /
color_GEN-_GEN- sky_GEN+ cloud_GEN+_GEN- /
color_GEN-_GEN- cloud_GEN+_GEN- sky_GEN+
GEN+ marks the possessor, and can be dropped. GEN- marks possession, and
cannot be dropped. The normal order is "A owns B", if B doesn't
immediately follow A you get Suffixaufnahme on B, if there are more than
two in the possession-chain, as is the case in example 2.
In addition to "possession" for impossessable animates, using te, and
possession for inanimates, using -ev for owner and -eð for possession,
Taruven also has inalienable possession:
the man's head
becomes
man-ji-head
An inalienable possession of the head, like an eye, goes to the left:
man-ji-head-ji-eye
But toss in something alienably possessed and it starts to get
complicated:
man-ji-head-ji-eye_GEN+ color_GEN-
Affixes on a ji-construction affects only the head (the leftmost noun),
but the possessors in a ji-construction *can* carry their own
*suffixes*, but not their own *prefixes*, so:
man_PL-ji-head = "the men's head"
This implies a shared head, which is generally not possible, so it acts
as a shorter form of the next:
man_PL-ji-head_PL = "the men's heads" (one head per man)
But:
0_man-ji-head
where 0 is zero number, means there were zero (or missing) heads, not
that there were zero (or missing) men.
t.