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Re: the lonely affricate

From:Joshua Shinavier <ajshinav@...>
Date:Friday, June 25, 1999, 9:46
In lorya Fabian:
> Russian has a 'ch' but no 'j', at least in the script. They *might* use > a written consonant cluster to round this out, I'm not too sure. But > that does suggest that when the script was invented, such a sound did > not exist. So Old Russian (1400 ad?) didnt have the sound.
So Russian has a 'ch' but no 'j', as does Spanish -- it seems that an unvoi= ced lonely affricate is more popular than a voiced one. Kristian wrote me abou= t a language from Uruguay called Guarani which has a 'j' but no 'ch'. Here is the table of consonants as he sent it to me: p t k ? mb nd g dZ r S h v w l j m n J N =20 A 'j', no 'ch', but the language seems to avoid voiced/unvoice pairs in general. It seems to have chosen the voiced option. Interesting, though, that there is a [S] to go with it. The other option would be a [tS] with a [Z], which looks like it would work out just as well -- though it might conflict with the [v]. Josh _/_/ _/_/ _/_/_/_/ Joshua Shinavier =20 _/ _/ _/ Loorenstrasse 74, Zimmer B321=20 _/ _/ _/_/_/_/ CH-8053 Z=FCrich =20 _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ Switzerland =20 _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ jshinavi@g26.ethz.ch Danov=EBn pages: http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Crete/5555/ven.htm