Re: Picto & Dil

On Saturday, April 16, 2005, at 07:38 , Doug Dee wrote:

> In a message dated 4/16/2005 11:54:34 AM Eastern Daylight Time, tsfsi@WEB.
> DE
> writes:
>
>> Sounds a cool language. But Dil was only developed and did not spread as
>> a
>> spoken language? (Question is self-answering).
>
> The only place I'd heard of Dil (before you mentioned it) was in Libert's
> book, so apparently Dil, like many other modifications of Volapuk, never
> got very
> far.
Hardly surprising IMO. From the samples you gave in your mail of 16th
April, it looks like a bit of fairly simple tinkering with Volapük. When
the Volapük movement fell apart, it was because of dissatisfaction with
the structure of the language; Dil doesn't seem to be significantly
different.

>> How does the tradition come that all conlangers give info on the first
>> numbers? 1-9?
>
> Someone whose name escapes me writes to this list now & then asking
> everyone
> to supply the numbers 1-10 in their conlangs.
As Muke reminded us, it's Janko Gorenc

Unfortunately, I still haven't decided on them in Piashi/Bax (or whatever
it will be called), but I did discover a diary from 1953, and it seems
that a week or so before my 14th birthday, I had written out some notes
about a creation of mine called 'Voldapeko' (Does the name remind you of
anything!) and it included the numbers 1 to 10:
ayn, du, tri, tar, pen, hekþ, hep, ok, nuv, dek  (Well, I was still only
13)

Yes - I have sent them to Janko  :)

> That's what prompted me to
> include the numbers in my list of Dil facts.  (1-9 happened to be in a
> handy
> table, so I quoted those.   For the record, ten is "unez", and twenty is
> "tunez", &
> presumably this pattern runs through ninety.)
In other words, just add the plural ending to the units - just like
Schleyer's Volapük! Arie de Jong's reformed Volapük is better than Dil in
this matter. He introduced the word _deg_ for 10, and the other tens are
formed in the same way as Esperanto (and modern Welsh :) by combining the
words for 2, 3, 4 etc with 10, thus:
teldeg = 20, kildeg = 30, foldeg = 40 etc.

Ray
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