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Re: Picto & Dil

From:Ray Brown <ray.brown@...>
Date:Monday, April 18, 2005, 5:50
On Saturday, April 16, 2005, at 07:38 , Doug Dee wrote:

> In a message dated 4/16/2005 11:54:34 AM Eastern Daylight Time, tsfsi@WEB. > DE > writes: > >> Sounds a cool language. But Dil was only developed and did not spread as >> a >> spoken language? (Question is self-answering). > > The only place I'd heard of Dil (before you mentioned it) was in Libert's > book, so apparently Dil, like many other modifications of Volapuk, never > got very > far.
Hardly surprising IMO. From the samples you gave in your mail of 16th April, it looks like a bit of fairly simple tinkering with Volapük. When the Volapük movement fell apart, it was because of dissatisfaction with the structure of the language; Dil doesn't seem to be significantly different.
>> How does the tradition come that all conlangers give info on the first >> numbers? 1-9? > > Someone whose name escapes me writes to this list now & then asking > everyone > to supply the numbers 1-10 in their conlangs.
As Muke reminded us, it's Janko Gorenc Unfortunately, I still haven't decided on them in Piashi/Bax (or whatever it will be called), but I did discover a diary from 1953, and it seems that a week or so before my 14th birthday, I had written out some notes about a creation of mine called 'Voldapeko' (Does the name remind you of anything!) and it included the numbers 1 to 10: ayn, du, tri, tar, pen, hekþ, hep, ok, nuv, dek (Well, I was still only 13) Yes - I have sent them to Janko :)
> That's what prompted me to > include the numbers in my list of Dil facts. (1-9 happened to be in a > handy > table, so I quoted those. For the record, ten is "unez", and twenty is > "tunez", & > presumably this pattern runs through ninety.)
In other words, just add the plural ending to the units - just like Schleyer's Volapük! Arie de Jong's reformed Volapük is better than Dil in this matter. He introduced the word _deg_ for 10, and the other tens are formed in the same way as Esperanto (and modern Welsh :) by combining the words for 2, 3, 4 etc with 10, thus: teldeg = 20, kildeg = 30, foldeg = 40 etc. Ray =============================================== http://home.freeuk.com/ray.brown ray.brown@freeuk.com =============================================== Anything is possible in the fabulous Celtic twilight, which is not so much a twilight of the gods as of the reason." [JRRT, "English and Welsh" ]

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