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Re: Is this a passive?

From:Thomas R. Wier <trwier@...>
Date:Thursday, July 24, 2003, 4:55
Quoting Nik Taylor <yonjuuni@...>:

> Incidentally, there's a universal that if a language has > split-ergativity by tense or aspect, the past or perfect will be > ergative, and the present or imperfect accusative
It's worth pointing out that this reflects the scalarity of transitivity. There is no universal binary distinction between transitive and intransitive verbs; different languages have different sensitivities to how genuinely agentive the action is. In some languages, imperfectives are not considered transitive because the agent's control over the patient is not complete until the action itself is finished. In some languages, plural agents cannot be considered fully in control because no one member of the agents completes the action, even if the action is taken to its logical end. Thus split-ergativity is a natural, indeed expected, epiphenomenon of human experience. ========================================================================= Thomas Wier "I find it useful to meet my subjects personally, Dept. of Linguistics because our secret police don't get it right University of Chicago half the time." -- octogenarian Sheikh Zayed of 1010 E. 59th Street Abu Dhabi, to a French reporter. Chicago, IL 60637