Re: representing back unrounded vowels in X-Sampa

Tristan McLeay wrote:

>On Sun, 18 Jan 2004, Joe wrote:
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>>But it's not [6].  I say this after years of experience living around
>>RP-speakers.  It's more closed than that.  However, when I round it, I
>>don't get [o], so I'm thinking it's probably [3].
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>So whats in 'bird'? I thought it was [3:] in RP?
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It is.  Length contrast, I think.  The only other vowel that does that
is [E] vs [E:](minimal pair - 'cairn'[kE:n] vs 'ken'[kEn]).  So I
suppose it would be [b3d] vs [b3:d].  To be even more exact, I think /V/
is [3_-], in my ideolect.  Incidentally, some people do seem to have
[6], but they're in the minority.

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>Tristan
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