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Re: representing back unrounded vowels in X-Sampa

From:Benct Philip Jonsson <bpj@...>
Date:Saturday, January 17, 2004, 18:34
At 12:55 17.1.2004, Joe wrote:

>[M] and [V], IIRC. The latter is the sound in RP 'put'[pVt]. > > >More exactly it used to be. The modern sound is [6], but >traditional transcription lags behind. > >Well, actually, I made a mistake there. The modern sound is [U], but in >'putt' it's [pVt], and it you can't say it's changed, because English >doesn't have a universal phonology.(YAEPT alert!).
I meant *putt*. _Putt_ is [p6t] just as surely as _put_ is [pUt]. Pronunciation changes. Orthography changes slower. Phonetic transcription ought to change apace with pronunciation, but unfortunately it sometimes becomes a kind of alternative orthography. /BP 8^) -- B.Philip Jonsson mailto:melrochX@melroch.se (delete X) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~__ A h-ammen ledin i phith! \ \ __ ____ ____ _____________ ____ __ __ __ / / \ \/___ \\__ \ /___ _____/\ \\__ \\ \ \ \\ \ / / / / / / / \ / /Melroch\ \_/ // / / // / / / / /___/ /_ / /\ \ / /'Aestan ~\_ // /__/ // /__/ / /_________//_/ \_\/ /Eowine __ / / \___/\_\\___/\_\ Gwaedhvenn Angeliniel\ \______/ /a/ /_h-adar Merthol naun ~~~~~~~~~Kuinondil~~~\________/~~\__/~~~Noolendur~~~~~~ || Lenda lenda pellalenda pellatellenda kuivie aiya! || "A coincidence, as we say in Middle-Earth" (JRR Tolkien)

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