|From:||Gerald Koenig <jlk@...>|
|Date:||Sunday, September 27, 1998, 7:48|
>JUSTIFICATION: NGL tends to produce long words, to counteract this, I'm
>proposing a systematic set of reductions in certain speach styles. This
It is not at all clear to me why the initial compositions by jack and
stephen have been longer than english. A glance at the rootwords shows
them not to be significantly longer than their english counterparts.
I think we should get a clear idea why there has been an expansion in
syllable counts in certain compositions, before we start surgery on the
phonology. Stephen thinks it is the phonology, I would like to be shown
why. What is the contribution of circumlocution due to limited
vocabulary? Are derivational morphems inherently longer?
>Vouels: The most bulky and noticable part of a sylable is the vouel, this
>especially lengthens in CVVC sequences. Vouel clusters are especially
>well suited to reduction since they will still always produce a
>pronouncable sylable. I propose that clusters be simplified as follows:...................
> ia /i@/ ie /je/ ii /i:/ io /jo/ iu /ju/............................
These changes would wreak hovoc with VTT contractions, miam, miem, mium,
which mean I was verbing, I am verbing, and I will be verbing.
miam==> mi@m. For all practical purposes, mi@m is indistinguishable
from mium. It converts a past tense to a future one.
miem==> m/je/m. This puts a semivowel "y" next to a consonant "m". It's
a semi-violation of the phonology to my ears and actually is harder to
mium==>m/ju/m. Again, "myum" is harder to pronounce than mium.
>The reductions, in order of their precedence, are:
> Assign stress
> Reduce aa...uu to a:...u:, likewise with bb...zz to b:...z:
> Delete "weak" vouels
> Simplify consonants
> Dypthongize vouels
>EXAMPLES: The following paragraph, taken from "Oxiziux Bokfejani":
>> Kajig, cike ta esrltirfe, tontaje fo bokfe. Esrltirfem rl manom wi' > >
>bokfecito, & u' tiumac indhur ogig tam bokfe. Kaov bokfe, rl man
>> suaze rl rafohinotom jeri & xujtu'ir toyal. Pi'eas q aplruntos u'
>> n`zdu rl manom, & pi'eiac dasem inhr'olyasig. U' iny`s hapxui',
>> rl man deur q aplruntos & se te tu'i intryalig rafoinotomad jeri.
>Would be pronounced:
>/kadZ@g gik:e ta sritirfe tontadZe: fo bokfe: sritirfe:m ol ,manom wi
>bokfetSi:to et u tjumatS ndewr ogig tam bokfe: kaov bokfe: ol ,man
>swaZe ol ,rafoxintom dZeri et SudZdu?ir tojal pi?&s ku @piruntos u
>naZdu ol ,manom et pi?ejatS dasem @n'ho?olyasig u? in'jas hapSuj?
>ol ,man dewr ku @piruntos et se te tu?i ntojalig rafoxintomad dZeri/
I would like to know the change in sylable count in this sample, but
don't feel able to do it. What is it?
NGL is not easy to construct well. Let's try again.
> Jack Durst