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Proposal: Reduction...

From:Gerald Koenig <jlk@...>
Date:Sunday, September 27, 1998, 7:48
> >JUSTIFICATION: NGL tends to produce long words, to counteract this, I'm >proposing a systematic set of reductions in certain speach styles. This
It is not at all clear to me why the initial compositions by jack and stephen have been longer than english. A glance at the rootwords shows them not to be significantly longer than their english counterparts. I think we should get a clear idea why there has been an expansion in syllable counts in certain compositions, before we start surgery on the phonology. Stephen thinks it is the phonology, I would like to be shown why. What is the contribution of circumlocution due to limited vocabulary? Are derivational morphems inherently longer?
> > >RULES: > >Vouels: The most bulky and noticable part of a sylable is the vouel, this >especially lengthens in CVVC sequences. Vouel clusters are especially >well suited to reduction since they will still always produce a >pronouncable sylable. I propose that clusters be simplified as follows:
> ia /i@/ ie /je/ ii /i:/ io /jo/ iu /ju/
............................ These changes would wreak hovoc with VTT contractions, miam, miem, mium, which mean I was verbing, I am verbing, and I will be verbing. miam==> mi@m. For all practical purposes, mi@m is indistinguishable from mium. It converts a past tense to a future one. miem==> m/je/m. This puts a semivowel "y" next to a consonant "m". It's a semi-violation of the phonology to my ears and actually is harder to pronounce. mium==>m/ju/m. Again, "myum" is harder to pronounce than mium.
>The reductions, in order of their precedence, are: > Assign stress > Reduce aa...uu to a:...u:, likewise with bb...zz to b:...z: > Delete "weak" vouels > Simplify consonants > Dypthongize vouels > >EXAMPLES: The following paragraph, taken from "Oxiziux Bokfejani": >> Kajig, cike ta esrltirfe, tontaje fo bokfe. Esrltirfem rl manom wi' > > >bokfecito, & u' tiumac indhur ogig tam bokfe. Kaov bokfe, rl man >> suaze rl rafohinotom jeri & xujtu'ir toyal. Pi'eas q aplruntos u' >> n`zdu rl manom, & pi'eiac dasem inhr'olyasig. U' iny`s hapxui', >> rl man deur q aplruntos & se te tu'i intryalig rafoinotomad jeri. >Would be pronounced: >/kadZ@g gik:e ta sritirfe tontadZe: fo bokfe: sritirfe:m ol ,manom wi >bokfetSi:to et u tjumatS ndewr ogig tam bokfe: kaov bokfe: ol ,man >swaZe ol ,rafoxintom dZeri et SudZdu?ir tojal pi?&s ku @piruntos u >naZdu ol ,manom et pi?ejatS dasem @n'ho?olyasig u? in'jas hapSuj? >ol ,man dewr ku @piruntos et se te tu?i ntojalig rafoxintomad dZeri/ >
I would like to know the change in sylable count in this sample, but don't feel able to do it. What is it? Jerry ------------------------------------ NGL is not easy to construct well. Let's try again.
> >Sincerely, > Jack Durst >