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Re: Silindion - Present Tense

From:Elliott Lash <erelion12@...>
Date:Tuesday, January 11, 2005, 20:38
--- "H. S. Teoh" <hsteoh@...> wrote:
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SNIPPING A LARGE PORTION

> > Athematic presents do not have a thematic vowel > for 1 > > of 2 reasons. > > > > 1) The root is a vowel stem: -ya, -a, -e, -u, -i, > -o > > 2) The root is a root accented consonant stem. > > > > For these roots, the personal endings are added > > directly to the root final vowel or consonant. In > the > > case of vowel stem roots, there's no problem, but > in > > the case of consonant stem roots, some changes > must > > take place. > > This system sounds very much like Classical Greek, > too. (Or is it a > more general phenomenon across inflecting natlangs? > The only > significantly inflected natlang I know is Classical > Greek. :-P)
~~~ Yes, I've been influence by Greek, although the Athematic/Thematic idea is from Indo European in general. I stole a lot from Sanskrit and Latin and Greek and ...although not IE, Finnish. All of these have helped form the Silindion verbal system.
> > The ending for the 3rd singular is either -n, or > -r. > > Originally this must have distinguished certain > types > > of transitive verbs from certain types of > intransitive > > verbs, although the difference between the two is > > largely lexical at the present stage of Silindion. > The > > -r ending is still largely reserved for many > > intransitive verbs, although not all intransitives > > will take the -r ending and some transitives will > have > > it. > > Nice historical detail.
It's both historical detail and me covering my tracks. I have no idea what I was thinking when I originally started the -r/-n contrast, almost 7 years ago. Most of the time the -r is on intransitives whose agent is either non-volitional, or is in some way affected by the action. But occasionally, that's not the case at all. And sometimes, groups which seem like they should be uniform, aren't. Example: fil "come" fil-i- "present-thematic" ya "go" ya- "present-athematic" fil-i-n "he/she comes" ya-r "he/she goes" I dont know why this is anymore! But I daren't change it, I like it so much. ~Elliott __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Find what you need with new enhanced search. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250