Re: Senjecas on Wikifrath
| From: | caeruleancentaur <caeruleancentaur@...> |
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| Date: | Friday, August 11, 2006, 16:56 |
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>Herman Miller <hmiller@...> wrote:
>Interesting stuff. There's too much to comment on in one post, but
>I did notice the resemblance to Indo-European, with words
>like "rűűð>is" for "red", and "ɱirũesc̆e ğenűesc̆e"
>meaning "men and women".
I used Pokorny's "Indogermanishes Wörterbuch" as the source of the
Senjecas vocabulary. The book was published before the laryngeals
were accepted theory, and I am grateful. I did this research before
PC's were the norm. I went to the library & copied by hand from the
tome what I needed!
>Is there a regular correspondence between Senyecan and PIE sounds,
>or is the situation more complicated?
The mythos of the conculture requires a strict & uniform system of
sounds. So I scrunched the Pokorny consonants into a grid with the
following results, Senjecas /X-sampa/ < Pokorny:
Labials:
p /p/ < p
b /b/ < b
f /p\/ < ph
v /B/ < bh
µ /m_0/ < w
m /m/ < m
Dentals:
t /t/ < t
d /d/ < d
þ /T/ < th
ð /D/ < dh
£ /l_0/ < gwh
l /l/ < l
Alveolars:
ç /ts)/ < k^ (Pokorny puts a circumflex over the letter to indicate
velar.
ß /dz)/ < g^
s /s/ < s
z /z/ < z
r /4_0/ < r
n /n/ < n
Palatals:
c /c/ < k
g /J\/ < g
x /C/ < kh
q /j\/ < gh
ÿ /j_0/ < g^h
j /j/ < i (consonant)
The vowels are the "standard" five plus /O/. I took /O/ from
syllabic /r\/. At first I was using /2/ or /3/, but they didn't fit
so neatly in my grid. Thus Pokorny's "wir-", man, becomes in
Senjecas _µîrus_, as you noticed. Pokorny differntiates between
long & short vowels & I have kept that. In the standard orthography
the long vowels are represented by a double grapheme.
>I happened to run across "ɱiɱe̋res" and thought it looked
>somehow familar -- then I remembered a recent Google search and ran
>across this:
Pokorny gives "wiwer-" as a root meaning "squirrel." It is actually
a root meaning "brown" with a reduplicated initial consonant.
English has the word "viverrine" meaning belonging to the
Viverridae, i.e., the civets & mongooses.
This is an interesting site. I assume it's in Czech, but I'm no
expert. Familiar to me also is the word "jelen" for some kind of
deer. There is a PIE root "elen-" which means a deer. And "volk,"
wolf, is from the PIE root "wlkwo-." And the bear is "medbar,"
which has to do with honey-eating. The PIE root "medhu-" is given
as meaning honey or mead.
Charlie
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