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Re: Telona grammar, part 1

From:Chris Palmer <cecibean@...>
Date:Sunday, February 3, 2002, 19:21
On Sunday, February 3, 2002, at 01:12 , Jim Grossmann wrote:

> But how can a univocal word meaning "apple" function as anything other > than > a noun or an adjective/attributive noun? > > Conversely, how can univocal words meaning "in," "because of," or "and" > refer to entities?
I'm not speaking for Jonathan, obviously, but I think loose answers to these questions could be given. They may or may not satisfy you, but conlanging is a personal art, after all. :) For example, if a language had no copula, "apple" could be a verb meaning "to be an apple". A previous conlang of mine, which never lasted long enough to get a name, worked ("worked") like this: IS-A-GRANNY-SMITH IS-AN-APPLE TASTES IS-GOOD "The thing which granny-smiths, which apples, tastes good." The basic plan was that everything is a predicate root, and complete ideas were expressed as conjoined (or nested) simple predicates. Any non-simple sentence would probably risk blowing the rather short stack of a human mind, but oh well. This was my Lisp Era, as you can probably guess: (taste (good (apple (granny-smith)))) I was young and impressionable... As for the prepositions and conjunctions, they all can be seen (perhaps tenuously) as aspects of "verbish" and "nounly" meanings: to: arrive, go to, goal in: presence, present because of: cause, fault, result and: join, conjunction, two, togetherness
> a) Remains poison water. > b) Water poison remains. > c) Poison water remains. > d) Water remains poison.
Great example, btw. -- Chris : Luddite-technocrat