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Re: CHAT: Contractions in colloquial German (was: Re: articles)

From:Carsten Becker <naranoieati@...>
Date:Wednesday, February 2, 2005, 11:00

On Tue, 1 Feb 2005 21:38:01 +0100, Andreas Johansson <andjo@...> wrote:

>As for _denn_, sorta. It's regularly reduced to [dn=], and then the [d]
>after a [t], so _ist denn_ becomes [Istn=]. But _gehst du denn_ would
>stop at the [gestUdn=] stage, I think.
Indeed. You can't apply these things to anything.
>Yup. Also _'nem_.
I forgot. Of course.
>> 'm | [(?)m=] | den, ihn | the, him > >You mean for _dem_ and _ihm_, don't you?
My bad. Yes.
>Only _dem_>_-m_ with prepositions. > >> 'mer | [m6] | wir | we > >Not on it's own, but for _-en wir_, like in _habmer_ for _haben wir_. >Also _-me_ [m@].
Yep. "Haben wir" > ["hAm6] for me.
>You don't have _'s_ for _das_? In Aachen they have it whenever possible
>is not to say they refrain from it when it's impossible!), and I've heard
it or
>heard it reported from other bits of Germany and Switzerland too.
>(By "impossible" I mean when it creates initial consonantal clusters no
>human would want to associate with, as in _'s Schwimmen_ [sSvImn=].)
_'s_ usually does not appear on its own in my dialect. It's rather [@s] for me. Carsten ... in school instead of paying attention to the Computer Science teacher ... ahem!