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Re: Immediateness

From:Carlos Thompson <chlewey@...>
Date:Tuesday, September 22, 1998, 6:54
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De: Pablo Flores <fflores@...>
Fecha: Martes 22 de Septiembre de 1998 00:55
Asunto: Re: Immediateness

>Carlos Thompson wrote: >>In Spanish, at least in my dialect, one would say >> Ya me fui'. (lit: I'm already gone) > >Which dialect is it?
Bogot=E1 Medium Class Youth Spanish. I remember being told as child Colo= mbia has the most neutral accent in Spanish which I'm pretty sure is false. N= ot even Central Andean Colombia has a unified accent and differences are relevant. After living a couple of years in Sweden, rounded by Chilenian= s, among other Latinamericans, I found chocking listening and recognizing Bogot=E1 dialect... and listening how different ways Bogot=E1 dialiect wa= s spoken. The most conservative Spanish (taking Sephardi appart) is believed talked= in Boyac=E1, a Mountain province North from Bogot=E1. I guess therefrom man= y people say Central Andean Colombian is the most neutral accent in Spanish. In Boyac=E1 are still found forms like "sumerc=E9" or "su merced", much l= ike old Spanish "vuestra merced" which lead to "usted" in most Spanish dialects. Some other Andean dialects I can easilly recognize in Colombia are: _santanderiano_, north from Boyac=E1 near Venezuela. _Opita_ southwest f= rom Bogot=E1, _paisa_ from Medell=EDn and influenced territory, and _pastuso_= from the South and very similar to Ecuatorian (Quito). _Valluno_ from Cali us= es "vos" for informal addressing like _rioplatence_ and _paisa_ but somehow different. In Northen Colombia the great Caribean dialect is spoken, with a lot of branches. A non-familiarised person won't easilly distinguish betwen a Cuban or a _barranquillero_, much the way a non-familiarised won't distinguish a _porte=F1o_ from a _uruguayo_ or from someone from Rosario. In Los Llanos region, people from Colombia or Venezuela speak the same dialect: _llanero_ and share the same music. Some other day I will explain further... if somebody asks :-)
>In my own dialect (Rioplatense), you can say: "(Ya) me fui" or simply > "(Ya) me voy" (I go, I'm going already) > [...] >--Pablo Flores