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Re: Linguistic term for ease of changing word-class (was: 'out-' affix in conlangs?)

From:Lars Finsen <lars.finsen@...>
Date:Monday, August 18, 2008, 20:33
Jim Henry wrote:
> > quoting me: >> Wouldn't most languages simply combine "wars" in the nominative >> with "clone" in the genitive, perhaps preferably plural. English >> has a special way of > > Sure. In a naturalistic artlang, I would do that without agonizing > over it for a minute. But the point of this thread, or the sub- > thread, that I revived when this issue occurred to me was that a > vague, general-purpose adjectival or genitive derivation might not > be a good thing in an engelang/auxlang. gzb leans toward the > engelang end of the engelang-artlang spectrum (not auxlangy at all) > and has more precise adjectival suffixes and genitive-like > postpositions, none of which correspond exactly to an English > apposite noun as in "Clone Wars" or any IE lang's genitive for that > matter.
You mean, you need to express whether the wars are against clones, between clones, concerning clones, including clones or whatever? Maybe a point worth considering for naturalistic artlangs as well. But no natlang or naturalistic artlang will have much trouble expressing the above, with prepositions and/or case-endings. In Urianian, zirgi klonet = wars against clones, with an accusative plural, zirgi klonan = wars between/of clones, with the genitive plural, zirgi klonant = wars concerning/for clones, with a dative plural, and zirgi klonit = wars including/with clones, with an instrumental plural. Or maybe I miss your point entirely. Anyway it was a nice little exercise. (I did lack a good word for 'war' in Urianian before. This one is derived from IE *dhereugh-.) LEF

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