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Re: Simple translation exercise?

From:Wesley Parish <wes.parish@...>
Date:Monday, June 16, 2003, 8:26
I was probably mistaken about the |ma| - now I remember, it's the cut-down,
colloquial form of the first person singular |mina| - with |a| being the
"umlauted a".

Sorry about that.

Wesley Parish

On Mon, 16 Jun 2003 01:37, you wrote:
> Finnish wasn't an inspiration, at least not in general terms. I agree that > those particular endings look Finnish, but the geminate n only arises > because of Omeina sound rules, which do not like to have two adjacent > syllables with the same initial consonant when one of those syllables is > word-final. A geminate n is considered to be a different consonant to a > single one. That's why the common incorporating verb-idea *nani > 'subject-(does something to)-object is realised as nain. > For example: > Hartunte ailo bere nani 'the bear sees the (full) moon' becomes > Hartunte ailo bere nain (literally Bear + ergative / full moon / see / > it-subj acts on it-obj) > Hartu 'bear' takes the ergative case -te which again because of the above > sound rule, inserts a modifying sound (here a nasal) to prevent the > prohibited sequence -tute#. > The original form of the durative case suffix was -lala (probably a > reduplicated form of the -la ending meaning "place at which something is > done") but this rapidly became -lla. Traces of the original still remain > after round vowels where this case ending is simply -la. > I didn't know -ma was the 1pp in Finnish! I suppose both languages have > fairly strict phonogies, so there's bound to be some overlap. Just as long > as nobody thinks Omeina looks like Quenya, that's OK! > Mike > > > Omeina reminds me of Finnish. I take it that it was a major source of > > inspiration? > > > > The |-lla| and the |-nna| terminations are what gave it away, and the > > |ma| first person plural. Looks good! > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.480 / Virus Database: 276 - Release Date: 12/05/03
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