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Re: Ergativity

From:FFlores <fflores@...>
Date:Sunday, January 23, 2000, 1:22
Markus Miekk-oja <torpet@...> wrote:

> Here's the fault of my theory: anybody who knows what > ergative is probably knows a bit more of language than the average man, > making it probable that the guy knows of Basque being a language of its own, > completely.
No, there are many people (I dare not call them wackos) who know a lot more than you and me about ergativity and such, but prefer to construct bizarre theories (I gather Basque is a favourite, especially if you can also throw in some 'Ancient Egyptian' and maybe aliens (!?)).
> > Theory II, which probably is even as much faulty: > could bilingual basque/spanish people've evolved ergative spanish (with the > accusative preposition as absolutive marker?) dialects? > Basque are proud of their language aren't they?
I guess they are. In most ergative languages, however, the absolutive is unmarked (in both the senses of the word). If this is a 'universal' (and it sounds likely and 'correct' to me) then this absolutive mark would be strange. IIRC the shift from accusative->ergative languages often involves transforming a (subject marked as) instrumental into ergative. --Pablo Flores http://www.geocities.com/pablo-david/index.html http://www.geocities.com/pablo-david/draseleq.html