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Re: Ergativity

From:takatunu <takatunu@...>
Date:Tuesday, August 12, 2003, 7:57
 Chris Bates <christopher.bates@...> wrote:

"I'm sure there *are* purely ergative languages. Just not many. However,
in the case of the sentence 'Robert<erg> cooks', in an Ergative system,
it mus be translated as 'Robert cooks it', not just 'Robert cooks',
which would be 'Robert<abs> cooks'."
Thanks Joe. :) Finally, someone who agrees with the way I feel it should
be. :D Thank god...
So you'd have: Robert <---cooks Soup <---cooks The difference would be that "soup" is either (i) being under elaboration or (ii) merely being re-heated by SOME cook while Robert is elaborating or re-heating SOME food. That's where determination comes on stage. Determination adds an information to a first information which becomes a reference. In ergative systems, the reference is the underlying result of the process: a/some---the after---before result---goal absolutive---ergative to fish (a fish)---to capture a fish etc.


Joe <joe@...>