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Re: Ergativity

From:Rob Haden <magwich78@...>
Date:Tuesday, August 5, 2003, 22:50
On Tue, 5 Aug 2003 17:26:57 -0500, Thomas R. Wier <trwier@...>
wrote:

>Your situation is not clear, because I cannot tell whether the >genitival marker is syntactically associated with the first >argument ("me") as a kind of postposition, or with the second >argument ("you") as a preposition. (If your language adheres >to Greenbergian universals, with an SOV language you would have >postpositions, not prepositions.) If the former, as a postposition, >you do not have an ergative language, because the single argument >of your two putatively intransitive constructions can be marked >either as patient or as agent. As such, your language would be >a split-S or, more likely, a fluid-S language. If the genitival >marker is associated with the second argument in the transitive >construction, then you still do not have an ergative language, >as the first argument is marked the same in all three examples.
Yes, 'n(w)a' is a postposition. I'm sorry but I don't see how my second example sentence is intransitive. To me, it still implies a direct object. But I think that's due more to the verb involved ('eat'). - Rob

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