Re: first try at conlanging
From: | erwan ar skoul <erwan.arskoul@...> |
Date: | Monday, January 7, 2002, 17:54 |
Christophe Grandsire a écrit :
>
> C'est ce qui la rend intéressante :))) . After all, you feel much more special
> when you realise that your language bears more in common with polysynthetic
> langs like Inuit than with Latin :))) (the roots excepted).
>
Yes, one should write a grammar of the French language as it really works. I
wonder how many frenchmen would recognize their language :-)
> Is Malagasy part of this family then?
No, Malagasy is austronesian
> Because it's the most common language
> referred to when people talk about OSV (IIRC, in my little booklet about the
> structure of languages - Que Sais-Je? La Structure des Langues - the list of
> OSV languages is more important than 1. In the sample of 743 languages it
> referred to, OSV was 5% of them IIRC).
>
Well, I happen to have got a Malagasy grammar (quite an oldie, published in 1926)
and word order is described as follows :
- the verb is generally first
- the object is always after the verb
-the subject is last but may be fronted for emphasis
So, I think that malagasy can be described as a VOS language. By the way, I think
your 5% figure refers to all languages which put object before verb (OSV, OVS,
VOS).
The languages I have heard of for OS structure are
OVS : guarijio (Azteco-tanoan)
VOS : Fijian (Austronesian)
Malagasy (Austronesian)
OSV : jamamadi (arawakan)
The figures for the more common types (SVO, SOV, VSO) are :
SOV (Turkish, Quechua, Latin) : a bit more than 40%
SVO (English, French, Breton, Chinese) : a bit less than 40%
VSO (Welsh) : 15%
Until the discovery of Jamamadi, it was thought no language had an OSV structure
>
> >
> > au : not (always prefixed for verb)
> > ôluvahîpa : verb ôlu (to drive, to lead) followed by the following
> > suffixes
> > va : indicates the action is made in defavor of somebody
>
> Nice idea :)) .
>
not really mine, I borrowed it from quechua.
As for making a web page, yes I am working on it, but I must first fomalize the
grammar and refine the world
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