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Re: Arabic

From:Eric Christopherson <rakko@...>
Date:Friday, November 23, 2001, 6:06
On Thu, Nov 22, 2001 at 10:41:08AM -0500, Steg Belsky wrote:
> On Thu, 22 Nov 2001 02:12:55 -0600 Eric Christopherson > <rakko@...> writes: > > ObArabic: That "choking" description has never helped me. I was > > taught that > > if someone's choking they can't make any vocal sounds. If it's more > > like gagging or clearing one's throat, that I could imagine. But that > > sound is still one I can make in isolation but not inside a word. The > other > > idea I have for what pharyngealization *might* sound like is the noise > > Homer > > Simpson makes when he thinks of something tasty. Know the one? Am I > > nearly correct here? > > -- > > Eric Christopherson, a.k.a. Contrarian Conlanger Rakko ^_^ > - > > That's it. I remember it being discussed here not that long ago, it's > the sound he makes with his mouth open and his tongue hanging out, right? > As opposed to the "mmmm... forbidden donut..." nasal sound. That > pharyngeal sound is actually a `ayn voiced pharyngeal > fricative/approximant sound. So if you hold the back of your tongue in > that position while articulating whatever else, you'd come out with a > pharyngealized sound. Of course, the _Teach Yourself Arabic_ book i > tried to use 4 years ago said that `ayn is made with the same muscles you > regurgitate with, so "if you feel like you're throwing up, you've got it > correct" ;-)
Hmm. Well, if that's true, then the force you use to tense them while pronouncing pharyngeals must not be as strong, because when I make the abovementioned Homer sound (yes, that's the one I meant), it doesn't feel like I'm going to throw up.
> -Stephen (Steg) > "mootooyootoo!"
*chirr*! -- Eric Christopherson, a.k.a. Contrarian Conlanger Rakko ^_^


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