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Re: THEORY: Question: Bound Morphemes

From:Charles <catty@...>
Date:Sunday, July 4, 1999, 17:38
Raymond A. Brown wrote:

> At 10:22 am -0700 3/7/99, Charles wrote:
> >English and many other langs have a strong sense of what is a word, > >whereas in Chinese and others it is much more fluid. > > And that, whether you like it or not, is primarily because of the different > written _conventions_ prevailing in Europe & China over the past couple of > millennia.
I doubt this to be true in Chinese; it has a very different way of regarding word-ness, but my information is second-hand, admittedly. However, your information on Rumanian etc. was valuable, so though I don't "like it" I'm afraid I've finally learned a bit about clitics.
> No English speaker that I've ever met - and I've met quite a few in my 60 > years - intuitively considers 'a/an' to be an unstressed variant of 'one'.
It's pretty clear to anyone who learns the French/Spanish word for "a/an". [about clitics]
> But how we write the things is convention.
> In the western > Romancelangs we _write_ them as separate words while in Romanian we append > the article and write it as 'part of the preceding word'.
> texts of ancient Greek always print enclitics as > separate 'words'; but the change in written accent on the preceding words > shows clearly they are enclitics. > > Proclitics on the other hand are always written in Europeanlangs either as > separate 'words' or hyphenated, but never AFAIK fully prefixed. But this > is pure convention and can differ in practice within the same language.
> >Terminology not only confuses, it mutates too quickly to remember. > > With respect, 'enclitikos' was first coined by the ancients; its first > recorded use AFAIK in in the writings of the Greek grammarian Tryphon in > the 1st cent. BC.; and the adj. 'encliticus' was used by the Roman > grammarians. The term 'procltic' was certainly used by grammarians of the > last century and I have little doubt the term is quite a few centuries > older.
Well that's it, I'm only up to Herodotus.