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Re: Quenya Wikibook

From:Sanghyeon Seo <sanxiyn@...>
Date:Monday, February 26, 2007, 0:49
2007/2/22, Isaac Penzev <isaacp@...>:
> I know some ppl here study Quenya. I found a textbook among the Wikibooks: > > http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikibooks/en/5/5d/Quenya_wikibooks.pdf > > What do you think, how reliable/trustworthy is it?
I quickly skimmed it. It looks like a good summary of current knowledges, in standard "reconciled" coursebook form. By "reconciled" I mean, it is done by the school who thinks writing a coursebook on Quenya is possible at all, while "Quenya" itself is continuum of ever-shifting fifty years of development, contradicting itself. I also note that this book makes absolutely zero effort to state how its materials were derived from Tolkien's writings, which is a good fun of detective work but very fragile in many places. It's like "Gospel harmony", a similar futile attempt to reconcile so-called "synoptic" gospels. No, it's much worse. To anyone trying to read any such Quenya coursebooks, I recommend reading "Elvish as She Is Spoke" together to balance the view. http://www.elvish.org/articles/EASIS.pdf From Tolkien's manuscripts, we know that he tried to write comprehensive grammar of Quenya himself multiple times. He always started with sounds, then etymology, and at one time he managed to pin down the noun paradigm which is included in Appendix 1 of the above coursebook. In all cases, he never reached the stage of writing down the verb paradigm of Quenya, to say nothing of syntax. In the process of writing he started to tinker with the language, which soon became too extensive that he had to start from scratch. In one of his story, he let one of his character speak this line: 'I've got something new!', he shouted. 'More than mere words. Verbs! Syntax at last!' Alas, Quenya never reached that stage. -- Seo Sanghyeon

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