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Re: Ygyde and philosophical languages

From:Tim May <butsuri@...>
Date:Friday, January 17, 2003, 19:16
Joe writes:
 > On Friday 17 January 2003 6:59 pm, H. S. Teoh wrote:
 > > On Fri, Jan 17, 2003 at 01:13:51PM -0500, James Landau wrote:
 > > [snip]
 > >
 > > > > But if it's the same as in
 > > > >"saw", most people would consider that the same as the vowel of "hot".
 > > > > And then you've got even more trouble.
 > > >
 > > >  I interpret the "all" or "saw" vowel sound as meaning it has that "w"
 > > > glide at the end -- like the sound people make at something
 > > > disappointing. (Or, come to think of it, something really cute . . .)
 > > > Like the vowel sound in "port", just without an R after it. "Hot", on the
 > > > other hand, mind be interpreted as a pure /a/ . . .
 > >
 > > [snip]
 > >
 > > OK, I just *cannot* let that past me, no matter how hard I try :-)  I grew
 > > up with, and am extremely calcified, with pronouncing "hot" as [hAt]
 > > instead of [hat] (probably a Britishism). Of course, this depends on which
 > > English idiolect you're talking about; but I believe /o/ as [a] is a
 > > purely American feature.
 > >
 > >
 > > T
 >
 > Well, the normal British expression is [hOt].  It is the same vowel as in
 > saw[sO:], just shorter.
 >
Well, _I_ say it's [hQt], and the OED agrees with me. :-P

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