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Re: Welsh - Verb-Nouns

From:Padraic Brown <elemtilas@...>
Date:Thursday, August 1, 2002, 23:29
--- Christopher Bates <christopher.bates@...>

> >of -ende maybe > >disappeared, leaving -ene or -en. Likewise the g of > >-ing disappeared (we > >write -ing, and have that enforced as the "proper" > >pronunciation, but the > >natural, spoken form in both North America and the > >British Isles is -in), > >and the resulting -en and -in were so similar that > >they fell together.
> Surely ng is a velar nasal, and not n + g? I think I > pronounce the ng in > -ing as a velar nasal, although most of the people > where I live do > pronounce it as n unless they are speaking formally.
Ng in English is in fact [N], a velar nasal. Nevertheless; we rarely pronounce "reading" as /ridIN/. It usually is realised as /ridn/.
> >English words are fascinating things. Did you know, > >for example, that > >"nostril" developed out of the Old English > >nas-þyrel "nose-hole"? And the > >word "þyrel" itself derives from the word þurh > >(through) -- a hole is > >something that a thing can pass through. I wish Old > >English was a required > >subject in school, so I could have had more than > >one college semester of it.
It wouldn't be a bad idea. Course, I also think Latin should be required. Perhaps three of Latin one of Old English. I'm sure that's asking for too much! Padraic. -- caycay sahomtan-he: tacati-ma; palemtar sharas-to-he ai ica zeter, oud da horistanter ‘l via su; sue ica wakoner ‘l via, oud da horisanter ‘l thaon. ptossum ozrcîr mpîw : tcan-i-hatlecîr vlesruma hhtoccrc-hopt tplann-i-s-oettrîm ruu mpîw pandreynaayso | wakuneinesi rou-eim tiogpan sacanana rûlalaytawsan || mas | antehon rououro waukun! --Petricon. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better


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