Re: Trademarks

YHL wrote:
>>But I maybe shouldn't say to much since my German teachers (both the guy
>>who
>>don't believe in low rounded vowels and the German one) tell be that I
>>preferably shouldn't use any retroflex trills when speaking German
>>(however,
>>tho' I still can't make uvuluar r's reliably, I can at least do those
>>vocalized ones nowadays, so I'm improving).
>
>It took me about a year and then suddenly the uvular r became easy and
>sustainable, but I still have no idea how I trained my tongue.  I'm hoping
>that if I persist for long enough despite hecklers the alveolar trill will
>someday come to me.  :-)  I *hated* it when my friend told me that if he
>didn't tell me I was pronouncing it wrong, I would keep on pronouncing it
>wrong.  I knew damn well I was mispronouncing the trill; ability to
>distinguish sounds doesn't, unfortunately, always imply ability to produce
>them, effort notwithstanding.  <sigh>
Speaking of r's, I recently decided that the Tairezazh /r/ is an alveolar
trill in standard pronunciation. Previously, it was a retroflex trill, which
altho' I find it easier to pronounce, doesn't fit into the general
phonological system very well.

I also realized that one could sort Tairezazh consonant inventory in way
that looks quite symetric:

p t ts tS k
b d dz dZ g
f T  s  S
v D  z  Z
  l  r
m n

>Schrödinger's Cat: Wanted dead and alive.
LOL!

                                                    Andreas

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