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Re: Toy Alphabet

From:Barry Garcia <barry_garcia@...>
Date:Monday, September 30, 2002, 20:50
CONLANG@LISTSERV.BROWN.EDU writes:
>Yes. That would mean having the same problem as the now >infamous dyslectic elves having to learn to differ between >the *way* to similar letters of the tengwar.
Exactly. Tengwar is pretty, but it's so planned out that it actually looks rather...confusing.
> >The Dental column is based on one vertical line. The Alveolar >column is based on a zig-zag line. The Velar column is based >on two vertical lines. Now, according to your scheme /j/ >belongs to the Velar row and /S/ belongs to the Alveolar >column. The only apparent break to these rules above are the >letters for /f/ and /v/. These look like they belong to the >Alveolar column, rather than the Labial column. /f/ and /v/ >should rather look something like
Well, my way of thinking is that they're not quite labial, since they include the teeth as well. Buuuuut, they do look like they're a part of the alveolar column as they are. But like I said, some of it was planning, a lot of it was being random and going for what I liked.
> >*if* one was to bring logic into the system. One could also >imagine the "underscore" line |_| marking voice and those >shorter dashes |-| marking ways of articulation, like >having it in the middle would be nasal, and the "down" >position would be fricative, etc. This would mean that /p/ >and /b/ would swap letters: | being /p/ and |_ /b/ for >instance.
Quite true. I never really thought of that :)
> > >I hope you don't mind my doodling with your toy alphabet. >I'm in the process of creating conlangs for an online-rpg site
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> Would >you mind if I used your alphabet as a base for that Elvish >syllabary? The phonology and phonotax your alphabet is >created for suits the Elvish ditos almost freakishly well.
Wow, i had little idea too :). I mainly created it so i could write whatever in English "relatively" well. Of course it's not supposed to represent English exactly :). I don't mind at all if you use my alphabet as a base. Perhaps the ideas you've presented to make it a bit more logical could be applied to yours? Naturally, a little credit ("inspired by...") would be nice :). It's really something for me to just fool around with and play with in class (hence the title of this thread)
> > >A more cursive and slim style would look awsome I think.
Hmm...i agree. Perhaps something that resembles formal print style devanagari? Or maybe brush work?
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