Theiling Online    Sitemap    Conlang Mailing List HQ   

THEORY: Subject: THEORY: Word Order In Phrases

From:takatunu <takatunu@...>
Date:Monday, September 30, 2002, 11:35
Jeff Jones <jeffsjones@...> wrote:

I have a question about word order in Natlangs. How common is the order Noun Adjectives Quantifier Determiner where Quantifier includes exact and approximate numbers and fractions as well as logical quantifiers, and Determiner includes things like definite articles? <<<< i don't know whether it's very common but indonesian works like that: mobil dua biji (yang) ini (or: dua biji mobil ini) car two seed (which) this these two cars orang (yang) banyak itu man (who) many that those many people however, indonesian may also put quantifiers before the noun: dua orang tukang yang miskin itu two man craftsman who poor that those two poor craftsmen seekor sapi yang merah ini one-tail ox which red this this red ox setiap kali each time semua kera all the monkeys etc. other langs like khmer do the same as well. i think french creole does so too.
It seems odd to me, but is what I came up with in avoiding ambiguity (in relation to other aspects of a syntax I'm working on). I notice that it's the reverse order of English (e.g. "the 3 hungry wolves"). I have another question: is there any theoretical reason why or why not (depending on the answer to the first question). <<<<< i agree with you that this order does a good job in "avoiding ambiguity". my conlang works like that too because it's very natural to me. as french say: "tous les gouts sont dans la nature" :-) Mathias


Christophe Grandsire <christophe.grandsire@...>
Roberto Suarez Soto <ask4it@...>