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Genitive Relationships (WAS Construct States)

From:Dan Sulani <dnsulani@...>
Date:Sunday, March 7, 1999, 10:38
    Hi all. I've noticed that this thread seems to have mutated into
discussing  Celtic-Semitic relationships (which I am following with
interest). Nevertheless, if I might be permitted to continue on a bit in
the former discussion of presenting how we handle possession in our
conlangs, I'd like to show how rtemmu does it.
    In rtemmu, all content words are presumed to stand for processes.
Thus,  on some level there could be a question as to what one could mean
by "one process possessing another process".  But, anyhow, this is how
it works in rtemmu:
if one content word follows another and the first word has -xere
suffixed to it, then the first process can be said to
possess the second, alienably. If  -xere is absent, the second word
modifies the first (can be used for inalienable possession),
and even more so, if the conjunction "auag" separates the words ("auag"
asserts that the first word _should_  be modified by the seccond.)
    As with other aspects of rtemmu, the possessive relationship also
takes into account whether the possessor and the possessed are
objectively observed, or subjectively thought about or remebered, and
the speed of change of each process.

        inakehs itihkxere zuv gr`v   =  I am thinking (normal speed) how
my observed body (which is undergoing normal change)  possesses  an
observable hand which is itself slowly changing. ( and that hand might
be in my possession only temporarily)

i = speaker;   na =subjective state of speaker, normal change;  kehs =
observed normal change in the topic of the sentence;
itihk = I, me;  zuv = slow observed change;  gr`v = hand;  -xere =
alienable possession.

    inakehs itihkxere no gr`v   ( no = subjective slow change)  might be
used to indicate possessing a phantom limb
     i.e. because of -xere, the possession is there, but because of
"no", the hand is not observable.

    inakehs itihk zuv gr`v   = I am observed to be handed,  and it's
part of who I am, not something I can lose or give away, or gain.

    inakehs itihk auag zuv gr`v = I have a hand! (in the sense of
inalienable possession)

Dan Sulani
 likehsna  rtem  zuv  tikuhnuh  auag  inuvuz  vaka'a.

 A  word  is  an  awesome  thing.