Re: Accusative or not accusative; that is the question

> BTW, "from..." would be ablative, I think;
> "without..." IIRC is called
> _privative_.
I've always called it "abessive", but perhaps they're
synonyms.

...and a quick lookup in wikipedia confirms this.

/Kalle B

--- Roger Mills <rfmilly@...> skrev:

> Santiago Matias Feldman wrote:
> (snip preliminaries)
> > Summing up, the two options are these:
> >
> > 1st:
> >
> > NOM   la om
> > ACC   omul
> > GEN   la omus
> > DAT   la om-???
> > ADL?  la omat   (to the man)
> > LOC   la oman
> > ???   la omas   (from the man)
> > ???   la omsun (without the man)
> > etc (under construction!)    etc
> >
> > 2nd:
> >
> > NOM   omul
> > ACC   la om
> > GEN   la omus
> > DAT   la om-???
> > ADL?  la omat
> > LOC   la oman
> > ???   la omas
> > ???   la omsïn
> > etc
> >
> > Which one would you choose?
> >
> I find the second to be more logical and regular--
> thus, all the oblique
> cases have the article preceding; also, the nom.
> with suffixed article could
> easily derive (granted, with a lot of analogical
> levelling) from _homo
> ille_ -- just as it did in Romanian.
>
> BTW, "from..." would be ablative, I think;
> "without..." IIRC is called
> _privative_.
>

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