vprtskvni (was Re: average syllables per word?)
|From:||Dan Sulani <dnsulani@...>|
|Date:||Friday, July 2, 1999, 4:36|
> > >(Speaking of consonant clusters... my favorite Georgian word
> > >is _vprtskvni_ 'I am peeling it', which is supposed to be
> > >one syllable. I don't know which part is 'peel', but I'm quite
> > >sure it's not the vowel.)
> > >
> > How is it supposed to be pronounced? With a lot of schwas or with a
> > consonnant cluster of 8 consonnants?
> My grammar says "one syllable per vowel". So it *is* a consonant cluster
> (v-p-r-ts-k-v-n, seven consonants, since /ts/ is affricate). And it also
> says "almost no assimilation"! Wow.
Last night, I asked my neighbor, who is from Georgia, how one
"I am peeling it". The response I got was /me vprtskni/. (/me/ = I ).
I made it very clear that the form I wanted was "I am peeling _it_",
I still got /me vprtskni/.
Assuming, for the moment, this form, it sounds to _my_ ears as:
/v/ (almost imperceptible; the lower lip does go toward the upper teeth
meeting the upper lip for /p/, and there is voicing, but it is so
to be almost unheard);
/prts/ stronger than /v/ , but unstressed;
/kni/ carries the stress.
No schwas. The one vowel is the /i/ at the end.
According to my neighbor, the root word "to peel" is "vprtskni"
As to the form, my neighbor didn't understand any word such as
"vprtskvni". According to your grammars what exactly is the person,
tense, etc. of this
Perhaps the /v/ in /kvni/ is an infix signifying "it". If so, could this
literary Georgian, as opposed to the "street Georgian" that my neighbor
If so, there could be an analogue in Hebrew grammar: to say "I am
one would say /ani mkalef oto/ (ani = I, mkalef = am peeling, oto =
it (masculine) ).
However, in a more literary style, Hebrew cuts off the "ot-" from "it"
suffixes the remaining vowel ("o") to the verb: /ani mkalefo/ (or
/mkalefa/ if the
word for "it" was "ota" (feminine). However, you'd never hear this form
on the street.
Someone who was not literate in Hebrew and only spoke the street version
might not know the shortened form.
( BTW, could you provide me with the name of your grammar? I've
to teach myself Georgian for years, and although I've searched all over,
found any grammars for the language!)
likehsna rtem zuv tikuhnuh auag inuvuz vaka'a.
A word is an awesome thing.