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Re: vprtskvni (was Re: average syllables per word?)

From:Josh Roth <fuscian@...>
Date:Friday, July 2, 1999, 5:47
In a message dated 7/2/1999 12:41:03 AM, dnsulani@INTERNET-ZAHAV.NET writes:

>As to the form, my neighbor didn't understand any word such as >"vprtskvni". According to your grammars what exactly is the person, >tense, etc. of this >form? >Perhaps the /v/ in /kvni/ is an infix signifying "it". If so, could this >form be >literary Georgian, as opposed to the "street Georgian" that my neighbor >speaks?
Did you see my email that I sent to the list before? I don't have a real=20 Georgian Grammar; I have a phrasebook and a little chapter in _The Concise=20 Compendium of the World's Languages_. It says that third person direct=20 objects are not marked on the verb, tho others are (as are indirect ones)=97= so=20 any verb without a direct object shown could have an implied object or not. Perhaps your neighbor is speaking a non-standard dialect? This could be why=20 he doesn't recognize that second "v." And, the first person conjugation is signified by an initial "v," which this=20 word has. I don't know why your neighbor said the root includes the "v."
> If so, there could be an analogue in Hebrew grammar: to say "I am >peeling it" >one would say /ani mkalef oto/ (ani =3D I, mkalef =3D am peeling, oto =
>it (masculine) ). > >However, in a more literary style, Hebrew cuts off the "ot-" from "it" >and >suffixes the remaining vowel ("o") to the verb: /ani mkalefo/ (or >/mkalefa/ if the >word for "it" was "ota" (feminine). However, you'd never hear this form >on the street. >Someone who was not literate in Hebrew and only spoke the street version >of it >might not know the shortened form. > > ( BTW, could you provide me with the name of your grammar? I've >been wanting >to teach myself Georgian for years, and although I've searched all over, >I haven't >found any grammars for the language!) > >Dan Sulani
I have seen a nice big Georgian grammar at a Borders around here, though not=20 the one I usually go to. If I go there soon, I'll see what it's called. Have=20 you tried any online bookstores? You'll probably find some there.
>-- > likehsna rtem zuv tikuhnuh auag inuvuz vaka'a. > > A word is an awesome thing.
Josh Roth