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Re: Person marking on nouns?

From:Ph. D. <phild@...>
Date:Monday, February 23, 2004, 0:00
> Muke Tever scripsit: > > > In many languages I think though it is possible to use 1st or 2nd person > > verbs when they construe with the speaker or the listener ("Our Father, > > which *art* in heaven"), it usually isnt (Your Majesty *is*; Your Honor > > *doesn't*, your servant *hears*, Usted *quiere*, o senhor *vende*...).
The Vulgate has "Pater noster qui in caelis *es* . . ." ("Father our who in heaven art . . . ") John Cowan wrote:
> > It's just one of those things, I think, like the opening lines of the > once very well known poem "Casabianca" by Felicia Hemans: "The boy > stood on the burning deck/Whence all but he had fled". If "but" is a > conjunction here, then we have to construe the second line as "all had > fled, but he had _not_ fled", which seems very forced. But if we take > "but" to be a preposition meaning "except", as in "None but the brave > deserve the fair", then it would call for "him" instead of "he" following, > which would lead to the apparent howler "him had fled", which is probably > why Hemans avoided it. (*Whew*)
If you consider "but" here to be a preposition, then "all" is the subject of "had," so "all but him had fled" would be no more a howler than "one of the hats is missing" (vs. the incorrect "one of the hats are missing.") --Ph. D.

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Ray Brown <ray.brown@...>