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Re: Optimum number of symbols

From:Andreas Johansson <and_yo@...>
Date:Saturday, May 25, 2002, 14:07
Christophe wrote:
>En réponse à Andreas Johansson <and_yo@...>: > > > > > My impression is that many/most of those silent |e|'s and |s|'s, > > phonemically speaking, are still around. Can you give me a good reason > > to > > believe that, say, "grand" does not contain an underlaying /d/ that > > gets > > realized as [t] or [d] in certain circumstances? > >No you can't,
I can't figure out what part of my message above could possibly take "No you can't" as an answer. Anyways ...
>because final /d/ is possible in French and is normally only ever >realised as [d]. This phoneme that appears at the end of "grand" and which >can >be realised as [t], [d] or disappear couldn't possibly be a /d/.
You learn something new everyday. Just to be perfectly clear: there is final pronounced [d] that cannot be blamed on a following, normally unpronounced, schwa, left there by linguistic history or later analogy? Andreas _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx

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Christophe Grandsire <christophe.grandsire@...>