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Re: Optimum number of symbols

From:And Rosta <a-rosta@...>
Date:Saturday, May 25, 2002, 14:42
Mike S:
> >I don't think an alphabet lends itself in a trivially easy way to > >a language with lots of lexically contrastive suprasegmental features > >such as tone, nasalization and voice quality. Well -- the result may > >be trivially easy, but the number of characters needed is > >unsatisfactorily large. (Cf. the numberless threads on this > >list about romanizations of Chinese.) > > My tack would be add that info with the vowel characters. > Considering the complexity, I'd say diacritics would be the way > to go: each vowel gets a character; accent marks for tone; > a cedilla marks nasality. I have to ask, what is meant by > voice quality?
As Nik said, breathy voice, creak, etc.
> The diacritics can be made more salient than they usually > are in the Roman alphabets. I'm not sure why this is not > considered trivially easy. If use another system, you > still have to encode this data one way or another. Complex > phonologies necessarily mean complex scripts. At least > your consonants are separate characters here.
I too would take your tack, but the diacritics and, arguably, the vowel characters would not represent segmental phonemes. In consequence, the result might not, strictly speaking, be an alphabet. A similar argument could be made for languages with very large consonant inventories that arrange themselves into orderly grids of phonation/initiation + place + manner + secondary articulation (e.g. palatalization). That is, a writing scheme that to some extent decomposes individual segments might be both more manageable and more faithful to the phonological of the language. --And.