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Re: Optimum number of symbols

From:Christophe Grandsire <christophe.grandsire@...>
Date:Tuesday, May 21, 2002, 11:56
En réponse à Nik Taylor <fortytwo@...>:

> > First off, you can start off by learning only the basic characters. > To > teach a child to read, you must first get the child to be able to > understand how to connect abstractions like /k/ and /a/ to make a > pronounceable syllable /ka/. You do not need to do this with a > syllabry, you already have /ka/ right there. After they get the basic > concept of reading, then you can go into the abstract diacritics. For > that matter, I'm not sure if you'd even need to teach the diacritics > as > characters. Does anyone know if Japanese children learn the > double-dots > as an abstract diacritic, or do they simply learn _ka_ and _ga_ as if > they were separate characters, the way English-speaking children > aren't > actually taught the relationship between s-sh and t-th? >
I know French children used to learn to read and write using a "syllabaire", i.e. words were cut in syllables, and each syllable was learnt separately. Only at a latter stage children were taught to split the syllables into letters. Something like 25 years ago the French Education Nationale decided to change the learning method from the "syllabaire" to the "méthode globale" where children were taught directly the letters separately, and the words without breaking them into syllables. The level of literacy (i.e. the ability to read and write without trouble) dropped dramatically in the whole country at once. I can still see it with people of my level of education (I'm a Ph.D. student) who have trouble reading a simple letter and cannot write without making one spelling mistake every two words, even with the most simple words (That after 15 years of education you can still make spelling mistakes in words so common and seen everywhere and everyday like "beurre": butter eludes me completely!! I was in charge of the students' newspaper, so I have quite an experience in that :)) ), while my mother who stopped school when she was 12 can read and write without any problem, and hardly ever makes spelling mistakes. Unfortunately the change in teaching method was an ideologic change, and the ones who did it are still in charge of the Education Nationale, and never admitted their mistake. So nowadays we're still at the "méthode globale", which requires in my experience more than two years to learn (with very bad results) what children got with the "syllabaire" within 6 months. I myself never had trouble with the "méthode globale", but that's only because I already could read before arriving in CP (the French equivalent of first grade). So you can imagine how heartedly I agree with the statement that syllabaries are easier to learn than alphabets :)) . Christophe. http://rainbow.conlang.free.fr Take your life as a movie: do not let anybody else play the leading role.

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