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Re: Optimum number of symbols

From:John Cowan <jcowan@...>
Date:Wednesday, May 22, 2002, 14:57
And Rosta scripsit:

> Is it correct to say these are not featural -- that the shape of > a character gives no indication of its value? (I think it's true > of the Cherokee syllabary, but that never struck me as admirable.)
True non-featural syllabaries are rare. Besides Cherokee and the Hira and Kata twins, there is only Yi, which has a small degree of featurefulness: the glyphs for middle-high-tone syllables (-x in romanization) are derived from the corresponding glyphs for middle-low-tone syllables (-zero in romanization) with a curved-circumflex-above diacritic. The high-tone and low-tone glyphs do not in any way resemble the middle-tone glyphs, and there is no similarity based on consonants or vowels either. Unicode ignores this regularity, and assigns all 1214 Yi syllabograms to distinct characters. (There are also 50 "Yi radicals" which are used to classify the 1214 characters for lookup purposes; of course, unlike Han radicals, they have no semantic implications.) Historically, the Yi syllabary descended from a Han-style morpho-syllabic system, but when it was standardized, only one character per syllable+tone was chosen. We would see the same result if just 1250+ Han ideographs were chosen to write Chinese in a purely syllabic fashion: there would be no rhyme or reason, at the phonemic level, to the characters at all. All the other "syllabaries" in Unicode at present are in fact abjads, abugidas, or in the case of Hangul, a featural alphabet with unusual layout rules. There may be more non-featural syllabaries hiding in the scripts that are as yet unencoded. -- John Cowan <jcowan@...> http://www.reutershealth.com I amar prestar aen, han mathon ne nen, http://www.ccil.org/~cowan han mathon ne chae, a han noston ne 'wilith. --Galadriel, _LOTR:FOTR_

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