Re: What could /s/+/h/ become?
|From:||Henrik Theiling <theiling@...>|
|Date:||Wednesday, August 24, 2005, 21:59|
Ingmar Roerdinkholder <ingmar.roerdinkholder@...> writes:
> Moin moin!
> I know a natlang that uses a lot of initial <s-h>: Flemish (South Western
> Dutch, spoken mainly in Belgium, but also in smaller areas in NW France
> and SW Netherlands).
> It's the equivalent of Dutch <sch> [sx], German <sch> [S], English <sh> [S]
> and Scandinavian <sk>.
> s-haop [shQ:p] sheep Dutch schaap [sxa:p]
> s-hriv'n [shri:vn]to write Dutch schrijven ["sxrEiv@]
> In this case, <s-h> is a mutation itself from <sch> or <sk>.
> In South West Dutch, all <g> [G] and <ch> [x] muteted to <h>, which sounds
> more like the forcefull Arabic <H> than the European soft one, btw.
I perceived them as [x] and [G] and the (Northern) Dutch ones as [X],
so I remember hearing ["sxri:vn=] vs. ["sXREiv_0@]. Anyway, that's
Yeah -- one option still at the top of my list of choices is indeed
/s/+/h/ > [sk]. Something like the reverse of what happened in
Germanic: sx < sk did happen, so the other direction might be enforced
by S11 sandhi rules, no?
The other high score option with would be to introduce geminate
fricatives. Geminate stops become h+stop like in Modern Icelandic.
But for fricatives, geminates might be an option. After all, sandhi
may be the source of new phonemes so I think I should probably not
stick too much to the initial phoneme table I defined.
Hmm. It's really hard to make good sandhi tables. I'm currently
changing them back and forth without reaching satisfaction.