Re: Here we go loup-garou
From: | Herman Miller <hmiller@...> |
Date: | Tuesday, July 10, 2007, 3:48 |
Mark J. Reed wrote:
> or something like that. I'm reëntering the conlang fray.
>
> Target: Okaikiar
> Mission: Beautify.
>
> Okaikiar, as she is right now, I find aesthetically displeasing. It's all
> in the eye and ear of the beholder, of course, but I just don't like the
> phonology. As an example, here's the paternoster:
>
> Uza zi dinkmarkurd or 'uz& zi dink'mar\kUr\d Or\
> Limzar don nudir 'limza\r don nu'dir\
> Markiar don maid mar\'kiar\ don ma'id
> M'ziar don ed m@'ziar don Ed
> Maizim ram dinkmarkurd ma'jizim r&m diNk'mar\kur\d
> Lokand m'lor zøn zyrkom zi rork 'lok&nd m@'lOr\ z2n 'zyr\kom zi rOr\k
> Uz lymkiard zi dolk uz lym'kiar\d zi dolk
> Ram zø lymkard zi dolkraz. r\&m z2 'lymkar\d zi 'dolkr\&z
> Uz kondziark zim lolz zik uz kond'ziar\k zim lolz zik
> L'ro m'kun zim lolz l@'ro m@'kun zim lolz
> Ziin dan ømkraz markiard zi'in d&n '2mkr&z mar\'kiar\d
> Uz k'ndard uz k@n'dar\d
> Uz køkald uz 'k2kald
> Ruzurd. 'r\uzur\d
>
> So I'm revisiting the phonology in an attempt to get a new one that is
> still
> consistent with the established proper names and that still works with the
> script. Suggestions welcome. Do you all find the above as
> unsightly/harsh/hard on the ears as I do? If so, what do you think would
> improve it?
It's all a matter of personal preference, but you might think about
restrictions on consonant clusters. A word like "ømkraz" could get
altered to "ømkaraz", "ømøkraz", or "øukraz". Not that there's anything
wrong with long or unusual clusters, but that's one thing to consider.
There's something a little bit awkward-sounding about words like
"dinkmarkurd". And "lolz" may have unintended associations.... Inserting
a vowel to break up final clusters would make sense (if you think that
sounds better): e.g. dolok (vs. dolkraz).
> Known proper names: Dankar ['d&Nka`r\], Zan [z&n], Tysor ['tajsO`r\], Ral
> [r&l], M'kei [m@'kej].
> Vowels: & aj a`r\ ej o`r\
> Consonants: d k l m n N r\ s t z
>
> Since we have both [d] and [t], chances are that since we have [k], we also
> have [g]. The existence of [m] makes the existence of other bilabials
> probable but not necessary. I find it quite probable that the [N] is an
> allophone of /n/ occurring before velars.
>
> The script as-is supports only 8 syllable onsets and 8 nuclei, but up to 64
> codas, and it can be readily extended to support as many onsets as codas.
>
>