Re: Here we go loup-garou

Jeff: love the .sig quote.

I should mention that the lack of phonemic voice was something I did
to keep the syllabary manageable, and I've never really been happy
with the move.  I want my /s/ back.

And in the interest of full disclosure: as a youngster I did suffer
from Alien Apostraphitis; "Zan" was originally spelled "X'an".
Unlike some adult SF writers, though, I outgrew it.  :).  The
apostrophe is still present in transliteration, but it's a phoneme
rather than a decoration.

On 7/10/07, Jeff Rollin <jeff.rollin@...> wrote:
> In the last episode, (On Tuesday 10 July 2007 11:23:07), taliesin the
> storyteller wrote:
> > * John Vertical said on 2007-07-10 09:21:13 +0200
> >
> > > As far as the *sound* itself goes, I think the vowel and stop
> > > inventory issues are just sidetracks; but IMHO a simple
> > > improovment might be a chain shift of z
> > >
> > > > r, r > w:
> > >
> > > / urä ri dinkmaukuud ou
> > > limrau don nudiu
> > > maukiau don maid
> > > mriau don ed
> > > mairim wäm dinkmaukuud
> > > lokänd mlou rön ryukom ri wouk (or maybe /ryykom/?)
> > > ur lymkiaud ri dolk
> > > wäm rö lymkaud ri dolkwar
> > > ur kondriauk rim lolr rik
> > > lwo mkun rim lolr
> > > riin dän ömkwar maukiaud
> > > ur kndaud
> > > ur kökald
> > > wuruud /
> >
> > Ooh, you could sing the blues to this... could just chainshift the
> > consonants that do not start or end a word...
> >
> > Ura zi dinkmaukuud or
> > Limrar don nudir
> > Maukiar don maid
> > M'riar don ed
> > Mairim ram dinkmaukuud
> > Lokand m'lor zøn zyukom zi rouk
> > Uz lymkiaud zi dolk
> > Ram zø lymkaud zi dolkuaz.
> > Uz kondriauk zim lolz zik
> > L'uo m'kun zim lolz
> > Ziin dan ømkuaz maukiaud
> > Uz k'ndaud
> > Uz køkald
> > Ruruud
> >
> > Then if we run a "cherman"-filter on the codas... (wouldn't
> > change the orthogrpahy, only the phonetics...)
> >
> > Ura zi dinkmaukuut or
> > Limrar don nudir
> > Maukiar don mait
> > M'riar don et
> > Mairim ram dinkmaukuut
> > Lokant m'lor zøn zyukom zi rouk
> > Us lymkiaut zi dolk
> > Ram zø lymkaut zi dolkuas.
> > Us kondriauk zim lols zik
> > L'uo m'kun zim lols
> > Ziin dan ømkuas maukiaut
> > Us k'ndaut
> > Us køkalt
> > Ruruut
> >
> > Hmm, now it looks like a cross between Basque, Inuktitut and
> > Some Romance Lang Or Other(tm).
> >
> > Harmonization (voiced to voiced, voiceless to voiceless) of
> > clusters would then give:
> >
> > Ura zi dingmaukuut or
> > Limrar don nudir
> > Maukiar don mait
> > M'riar don et
> > Mairim ram dingmaukuut
> > Lokant m'lor zøn zyukom zi rouk
> > Us lymgiaut zi dolk
> > Ram zø lymgaut zi dolguas.
> > Us kondriauk zim lols zik
> > L'uo m'kun zim lols
> > Ziin dan ømguas maukiaut
> > Us k'ndaut
> > Us køkalt
> > Ruruut
> >
> Actually to the untrained eye that looks like a weird Uralic language,
> possibly even Estonian or Votic.
>
> Jeff
> --
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>
>                             -- Cameron Laird
>

--
Mark J. Reed <markjreed@...>

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