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Re: THEORY: Semivowels

From:Nik Taylor <fortytwo@...>
Date:Thursday, September 9, 1999, 3:38
Adam Parrish wrote:
> Actually, from what I've read (and heard), [j_0] is a pretty > consistent allophone of /j/ when preceded by an aspirated stop, as in > putrid (= [p_hj_0uwtrid]) or cute (= [k_hj_0uwt]).
True. And the same thing is the origin of /j_0/: huge = /hjudZ/ = [hj_0u:dZ] --> [j_0u:dZ] I s'pose there may be a few dialects that preserve the [h] in those words
> Speaking of voiceless things that usually aren't voiceless, I'm > considering putting a rule (or, at least, a dialectical variation) into > Doraya phonology that devoices vowels when they're between two voiceless > consonant sounds
Hmm, interesting. Japanese also does that, but I've never been a big fan of voiceless vowels, since I have trouble distinguishing them, but to each his own.
> _tye'eska_ 'have put up for the night' [tje:ska] -> _tyehska_ > [tje_0ska]
Why write -h after the vowel, if the devoicing is predictable?
> _tyehska_ [tje_0ska] -> _tshska_ [tSska] > _sehkehs_ [se_0ke_0s] -> _sks_ [sks]
Hmm, well, I don't think that [sks] could be possible, I think that a vowel would have to find its way in there, perhaps as [ske_0s] or an epenthetic vowel or something. But, it's a very interesting idea, nevertheless. Of course, it would mean that only voiceless consonants could form clusters. -- "If all Printers were determin'd not to print any thing till they were sure it would offend no body, there would be very little printed" - Benjamin Franklin http://members.tripod.com/~Nik_Taylor/X-Files/ http://members.tripod.com/~Nik_Taylor/Books.html ICQ #: 18656696 AIM screen-name: NikTailor