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Re: time distinctions

From:Nik Taylor <fortytwo@...>
Date:Thursday, August 24, 2000, 4:26
"H. S. Teoh" wrote:
> But on this note... I wonder if it's actually possible to have a language > *without* imperatives?
It's certainly possible to get around it. Consider the way that in English we often use pseudo-questions like "Could you close the door for me?". Of course, "could you" could be said to fill the role of imperative. In fact, I could see "couldja" evolving into a synonym of "please", or even replacing it. Probably would lose the question-intonation as well. I suspect, however, that any language without obvious imperatives would merely have less-obvious ones. Historically, the imperative suffix -tli evolved as an optative, e.g., "May she prosper". This came to be used as a polite imperative, "May you come here", and is now imperative/optative. It is related to the verb tlí, in fact, historically, the main verb was incorporated into the verb tlí (to hope), but later stress shifted back to the main verb, and agreement came to be connected with the main verb (originally, always first person singular, since it was "I hope that ..."), thus -tli became merely a suffix. But, that history behind it ensures that the second person suffixes are still used. -- "Their bodies did not age, but they became afeared of everything and anything. For partaking in any activity at all could threaten their precious and ageless bodies! ... Their victory over death was a hollow one." ICQ: 18656696 AIM Screen-Name: NikTailor