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Re: OT sonority in Russian, was Re: syllables

From:JS Bangs <jaspax@...>
Date:Wednesday, June 18, 2003, 18:42
Amanda Babcock sikyal:

> On Thu, Jun 12, 2003 at 01:15:16PM -0700, JS Bangs wrote: > > > This obviously combines several of the possible distinctions above. The > > notion of sonority class also interacts with the idea of "minimum sonority > > distance", which specifies how far apart segments at the beginning of a > > syllable must be. In English, the minimum sonority distance is 2. > > Therefore, [pl], [kr], and [tw] are valid ways to begin an English > > syllable, but [pm] and [nl] are not since the sonority of those segments > > is too close together. > > Ok, this has me curious. Does Russian follow this system at all? I'd > be tempted to say either "no" or "yes, but the minimum sonority distance > is 0" (based on initial stop clusters and the like). Any Russian experts > who could weigh in on this?
Russian does indeed follow this system, but it has some quirks: The general sonority goes obstruents, nasals, liquids, approximants, vowels. Minimum sonority distance is 1. Thus, /dmitrij/, /mladSij/, etc. do not violate sonority. Russian /v/ acts like it was /w/--i.e. it is more sonorouss than /r/ or /l/. Thus the sonority distance between the initial consonants of /tvoj/ "yours" is 3, not 0. I can't think of any words that begin with /rv/ right off, but they wouldn't violate sonority either. You can add one extra segment to the beginning of a word that violates sonority. You can also add /s/ to the beginning of any sequence that doesn't violate sonority (but not to the beginning of a sequence that *does* violate sonority--see below). Adding /s/ in this way isn't considered a sonority violation. You might say that /s/ forms a sonority class of its own that is *less* sonorous than anything else. If you try to add more segments after one that violates sonority, then you get epenthetic schwas. This explains the alternations in the proclitic prepositions: /mnoj/ violates sonority, but it is allowed by the "one extra segment" rule. But now you can't add anything else, so you get /somnoj/ rather than /*smnoj/ for "with me". Because of the exceptions regarding /s/ + valid sonority sequence, you can also get things like /vstretimsja/--/str/ isn't considered a sonority violation, so you can add the /v/ w/o schwas by the "one extra segment" rule. I think this covers it. Caveat emptor--I am not an expert, nor am I fluent in Russian. This is the analysis I came up with studying Russian, though. Jesse S. Bangs jaspax@u.washington.edu http://students.washington.edu/jaspax/ http://students.washington.edu/jaspax/blog Jesus asked them, "Who do you say that I am?" And they answered, "You are the eschatological manifestation of the ground of our being, the kerygma in which we find the ultimate meaning of our interpersonal relationship." And Jesus said, "What?"

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