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Blah blah blah natlangs

From:Justin Mansfield <jdm314@...>
Date:Saturday, July 14, 2001, 4:58
Sic Danny Wier:

> In languages like Sanskrit and its descendants which had a shift from
palatal to
> palatoalveolar (c, ch, j, jh, s'), palatoalveolar was probably an
> stage.
My freshman year in college I had a roommate who was a native speaker of Nepali. When he would pronounce English /tS/ and /dZ/ (as well as their Nepali equivalents) they would sound to me as if they alternated between palatoalveolar (e.g. [tS]) and alveolar ([ts]). Having heard enough alveolopalatals in spoken Chinese I now kind of wonder if he wasn't using [ts\] and [dz\]. Sic Adrian Morgan:
> Pronouncing "yeah" with an [&] is new to me. > > [je@] and [je:] are both common. > > [jE@] and [jE:] also believable. Reference points on the
> continuum can be hard to pin down, and I don't think my dialect has
[E] so
> I have difficulty distinguishing it.
My idiolect definitely has [j{] (or [j&] depending on your favored transcription system), but the actual phonetic realization might be something else, just because speakers of other dialects usually insist that my /{/ is not [{]. If this is so, I don't know what exactly it is. It's definitely not a diphthong, however, even in "yeah." By the way, blah blah blah is occasionally pronounced bla bla bla with the same lax sound ending a word, no? JDM


Thomas R. Wier <artabanos@...>
Herman Miller <hmiller@...>