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Re: Blah blah blah natlangs

From:Roger Mills <romilly@...>
Date:Tuesday, July 17, 2001, 4:56
Eric Christopherson wrote:
>This is something I've rarely if ever read about though when reading on >sound changes; that is to say, a glottal stop becoming another stop. Does
it
>ever happen in "normal" circumstances ....>
Interesting question. I'd say no, generally; although it might happen, as the result of assimilation, say ....? # C...., or by vowel loss ....?(V)C.... Southeast Asian languages, and Malayo-Polynesian in particular, show a nice "continuum of consonantal attrition" with respect to final consonants, where everything over time tends to move toward loss. /?/ is the next to last step. So you have e.g. Philippine langs. with a wide variety of possible finals (vd./vl. stops, r l s, m n N-- older Javanese too; then Malay with only vl.stops, rls mnN. The language family I worked on in Sulawesi apparently had shifted *-p > ? and *-m > n at an early stage; then *-t > ?, so one group of languages had finals /? k, n N/; another continued on with *-k > ? and *-n > N, so Bugis and Makassarese showed only final /? N/ (continuants were always a problem; but they shifted in various ways to /?/ too). Proto-Oceanic is reconstructed with a Malay-like system, but only a few languages preserve any final C (though remnants of them remain in some of the verbal suffixes). (by which I mean that <yep>/<yup> and
><nope> are kind of slangy interjections, so maybe they don't follow all the >rules other kinds of words do)?