Re: Group Conlang: affix morphology

At 00:36 13/10/98 -0500, you wrote:
>De: Nik Taylor <fortytwo@...>
>Fecha: Lunes 12 de Octubre de 1998 23:32
>
>
>>Carlos Thompson wrote:
>>> >Here's to round up the proposals about affix morphology.
>>> >
>>> >We have two affix systems so far:
>>> >System A: case_tag + root + screeve_tag
>>> >System B: gender_tag + root + case_tag
>>>
>>> Vote for System A
>>
>>Am I the only person who wants to vote for B?  It's more naturalistic.
>>Very few (if any) languages have case-prefixes.  In fact, the very few
>>cases of case-prefixes are actually inflected demonstratives that were
>>fused to the noun, and therefore also incorporate gender.
>
>I guess that's precisly why most of us prefere A: it's less familliar.  At
>least for me.
>
>>> >For this, we have two alternatives:
>>> >1. Use (C)V- and add a semivowel glide when a vowel follows.
>>> >Example: pe- + ak- = pejak-;  o- + ak- = owak-
>>> >2. Use (C)VC- and change the last -C- when a consonant follows.
>>> >Example: ut- + pop- = uspop-;  ik- + pop- = ikhpop-
>>> >(i. e. change stop > fricative)
>>> >Although also,
>>> >3. Use both systems according to the affix.
>>
>>Well, we could also have CV- --> C-, but that would limit the number of
>>prefixes possible.  How about adding nothing.  What's wrong with pe- +
>>ak- --> peak-?  If you definitely don't want VV sequences, add a glottal
>>stop, thus pe?ak- OR have prefixes in the form CV(C)-, where the (C)
>>indicates a consonant which is only used before vowels, thus, perhaps
>>pe(t)- + ak- --> petak-, but pe(t)- + pop --> pepop.
>
>Personnaly I want no glottal stops.  They would look to NGL for me and are
>not part of the phonology most of us seems to agree... of course, there is
>no hard rule on that.  I like the idea of flexional affixes like V(C)-.
>
>About V-V compositions.  No body has objected this far about the proposed
>CSV(V)F syllabe structure where S is /w/, /j/ or /r/ and F is /w/, /j/, /l/
>any nasal or fricative.  It means a syllabe coud have two vowels, and if we
>join two roots, one ending in vowel and the other begining in vowel, they
>would become one syllabe from two original syllabes.
>
Why S can't be also /l/ as I proposed? Can't you pronounce 'tl', 'fl' and
others?

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