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Group Conlang : Vote on First Tags

From:Pablo Flores <fflores@...>
Date:Sunday, October 11, 1998, 14:35
Mathias M. Lassailly wrote:
> >Don't you think we should vote now on cases ? > >I don't like to claim for anything but I think we should vote at least on these points : > >(sorry for this 'directiveness')
Don't be sorry -- this is what we needed at this point.
>1. Cases : > >want cases ? : yes/no >
Yes (agent, patient, undergoer, theme, modifier, determinant, predicate).
>if yes : > >prefixed tag ? : yes/no > >suffixed tag ? : yes/no > >infixed tag ? : yes/no > >separable tag ? : yes/no >
Prefixed tag for common functions. Separable form, used as a resumptive pronoun for relative clauses.
> >2. Parts of speech : > >want tag ? : yes/no
That would be a case tag (to distinguish "nouns" [agents, patients, undergoers, themes] from "verbs" [predicates] from "adjectives" [modifiers, determinants]). I don't want to have a different tag to mark PoS if the case tag already does that.
> >if yes : > >prefixed tag ? : yes/no > >suffixed tag ? : yes/no > >infixed tag ? : yes/no > >separable tag ? : yes/no >
(see above for cases)
>if same position for case and speech-part tags : > >both tags combined ? : yes/no > >if no : > >tag opposit end of word ? : yes/no >
(see above)
>3. Genders (lexical classes) : > >want 'genders' ? : yes/no >
Yes, logical gender (person, animate, thing, concept, speech, as I proposed in another post [a simplification of one of Carlos's schemes]).
>if yes : > >prefixed tag ? : yes/no > >suffixed tag ? : yes/no > >infixed tag ? : yes/no > >separable tag ? : yes/no
Suffixed tag.
>in crossing events : > >combined with speech-part tags ? : yes/no > >combined with case tags ? : yes/no
I don't understand what "crossing events" mean. But anyway, I vote no for these -- I think gender and case/PoS tags should be kept on the opposite ends of words.
>4. Pre/post-positions : > >want pre/post-positions ? : yes/no > >preposition ? : yes/no > >posposition ? : yes/no > >postcase+postposition ? : yes/no > >preposition+precase ? : yes/no > >precase+postposition ? : yes/no > >preposition+postcase ? : yes/no
Precase only, precase + postposition, or postposition only, according to our needs (will we say "here" or "herein"?).
>Nota : no comment here on nature of prepositions as : > >adverbs = meanwhile >suspensive verbs = during >nouns = outside >'true' prepositions = before
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