Group Conlang : Vote on First Tags
From: | Pablo Flores <fflores@...> |
Date: | Sunday, October 11, 1998, 14:35 |
Mathias M. Lassailly wrote:
>
>Don't you think we should vote now on cases ?
>
>I don't like to claim for anything but I think we should vote at least on these points :
>
>(sorry for this 'directiveness')
Don't be sorry -- this is what we needed at this point.
>1. Cases :
>
>want cases ? : yes/no
>
Yes (agent, patient, undergoer, theme, modifier, determinant, predicate).
>if yes :
>
>prefixed tag ? : yes/no
>
>suffixed tag ? : yes/no
>
>infixed tag ? : yes/no
>
>separable tag ? : yes/no
>
Prefixed tag for common functions.
Separable form, used as a resumptive pronoun for relative clauses.
>
>2. Parts of speech :
>
>want tag ? : yes/no
That would be a case tag (to distinguish "nouns" [agents, patients, undergoers,
themes] from "verbs" [predicates] from "adjectives" [modifiers, determinants]).
I don't want to have a different tag to mark PoS if the case tag already does that.
>
>if yes :
>
>prefixed tag ? : yes/no
>
>suffixed tag ? : yes/no
>
>infixed tag ? : yes/no
>
>separable tag ? : yes/no
>
(see above for cases)
>if same position for case and speech-part tags :
>
>both tags combined ? : yes/no
>
>if no :
>
>tag opposit end of word ? : yes/no
>
(see above)
>3. Genders (lexical classes) :
>
>want 'genders' ? : yes/no
>
Yes, logical gender (person, animate, thing, concept, speech, as I proposed
in another post [a simplification of one of Carlos's schemes]).
>if yes :
>
>prefixed tag ? : yes/no
>
>suffixed tag ? : yes/no
>
>infixed tag ? : yes/no
>
>separable tag ? : yes/no
Suffixed tag.
>in crossing events :
>
>combined with speech-part tags ? : yes/no
>
>combined with case tags ? : yes/no
I don't understand what "crossing events" mean. But anyway,
I vote no for these -- I think gender and case/PoS tags should
be kept on the opposite ends of words.
>4. Pre/post-positions :
>
>want pre/post-positions ? : yes/no
>
>preposition ? : yes/no
>
>posposition ? : yes/no
>
>postcase+postposition ? : yes/no
>
>preposition+precase ? : yes/no
>
>precase+postposition ? : yes/no
>
>preposition+postcase ? : yes/no
Precase only, precase + postposition, or postposition only,
according to our needs (will we say "here" or "herein"?).
>Nota : no comment here on nature of prepositions as :
>
>adverbs = meanwhile
>suspensive verbs = during
>nouns = outside
>'true' prepositions = before
--Pablo Flores
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