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Eftoihs: Was LeGuin

From:Sally Caves <scaves@...>
Date:Saturday, January 11, 2003, 17:03
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From: "Sally Caves" <scaves@...>

> I believe that Amman-Iar boasts something > like ten thousand words, and David Bell has the glossary to prove it. If > it's not David Bell, then I can't remember who it is with such a developed > conlang (John Fisher's Elet Anta?). Tokana (also invented for a
> that takes place in an alternate world located somewhere on the Pacific > Coast) comes with an admirably detailed grammar, and another extensive > vocabulary, and whose author, Professor Matt Pearson, has devoted years to > its making.
Okay, I've slept on this. If I have given anyone the impression that certain conlangs are "better" than others because they are more "developed," then please accept my apologies. There was no qualitative assessment intended here. Only a philosophical one. Nor is there any shame in making a conlang for a book and then stopping it, or trying out many different structures that you don't go on to develop into gigantic proportions. So before anybody else calls me a "classist," <G> bear in mind that my 1998 "Lunatic Survey" had a question I didn't word in quite the same way in this package: "Do you prefer to stick with one conlang for a long time or do you try on different conlangs like different clothes?" I think the clothes metaphor was in there; I rather liked the idea of "wearing" a conlang for a while, like building a little house around yourself. I also think I got trounced for the comparison (shedding clothes and putting on new ones), but this different approach fascinates me. There is, I feel, a fundamental (not qualitative!) difference between the conlanger who works on one conlang for a long time, and the conlanger who makes grammatical structures and vocabularies for many different conlangs. I think it has to do with how one plays with this experiment, what one's goals are, and curiosities--and personality. It still remains mysterious. I can identify more, however, with the one-conlang band. We've had many debates about what the word "conlang" means, and it seems to encompass any aspect of constructed language. In the meantime, there are so many newcomers, many of you the age when I was really trying out my conlang wings (teens, early twenties). Things have changed so much. I didn't have anything like this. I have to wonder how I would have been influenced, encouraged, or intimidated by a list like this. When I was putting T. together, the personal computer was completely new, almost inaccessible, horrendously expensive, and there was of course no Internet. I was alone. I need, now, to listen to you guys, instead of posting, and to read through all of your responses. I've read through some of them, and you've written some amazing comments and insights. I might contact some of you privately for more information. Thank you so much for sharing your thoughts on this with me and the rest of the list. Since you asked, Padraic, in your survey response, my goal is to be able to say something at a conference in April on Celtic literature and language (Berkeley) about how Celtic languages have influenced the construction of some conlangs. Since I can't be Ursula Le Guin (I always had hopes to be a novelist, and her work impressed me the most), I must turn these creative forces in me to some academic use. That's my specialty, my gift, the road I have chosen. Sarah "Sally Caves" Li takrem celil aippara tenuoid nomai edrim. "The world sleeps in the bed of winter."