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Re: Nyenya'a

From:Frank George Valoczy <valoczy@...>
Date:Thursday, October 18, 2001, 23:02
> > Whether these are particles or in fact cases is not yet clear: > > > > Topic: wa
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> > Interrogative: ko > > Are these all derived from Japanese case particles or are some derived
from Nenets cases?
>
Some of them are indeed from Nenets cases; that's why I'm not certain if the Japanese particles have become cases, or if the Nenets cases have become particles, or if there is a dual system at work.
> > Verbs > > > > This is a lot like Japanese: > > > > to go to be > > Present: -dEma minadEma oma > > I like the basic idea, but how do you combine them? Is it going to be like
Japanese where interesting pre-forms show up alot?
> > that is: minanai "go-neg" > > ikanai (japanese) ikanakatta "go-neg-past" > > Where the "preform" for -nai is "naki" >
I'm not quite certain yet. There is a word [ixi] "no; not", but I don't think this is used with verbs, I mean, you wouldn't say [ixi minadEmata] for "I did not go". I was sort of thinking of attaching the "-nai" negative suffix to the end of the "other" form, but now I'm not certain if I would want "minadEmatanai", or "minanadEmata".
> Also, where do most of the suffixes come from?
Those which aren't from Japanese are from Nenets tense/aspect markers.
> > > > Personal Pronouns: > > > > Informal Formal > > 1psg orE mana > > 2 omaI pida > > 3 ke? xaru > > 1ppl orEta? manata? > > 2 omaIta? pidata > > 3 keqta? xaruta? > > It seems like the informal varieties are based on japanese while most of
the formal categories are based on Nenets. Is this true? If so, where does "xaru" come from.
>
That came from the reflexive pronoun "xarta", which is "himself" in Nenets. ---frank