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Re: Unambiguously describing molecules... and more

From:<morphemeaddict@...>
Date:Saturday, March 17, 2007, 4:18
In a message dated 3/16/2007 7:39:03 PM Central Daylight Time,
leon_math@YAHOO.COM writes:


> In some engelangs one goal might be to be able to describe different > chemical molecules. Of course systems created to imitate the conventional > chemical formulas (water = H2O, carbon dioxide = CO2, with the 2's as > subscripts) can easily be made, but for the engelanger a common goal is to > reduce ambiguity. And ambiguity can be found when trying to describe... > > Isomers. (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isomer) So... basically what I'm > asking (or thinking about) is how to describe molecules, not only by the > atoms they contain, but also their structure (the bonds). Can you come up > with anything better that SMILES (see > http://www.daylight.com/dayhtml/doc/theory/theory.smiles.html)? > > In general, have any of you all included describing graphs (this kind of > graph: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graph_%28mathematics%29) in your > languages. Which traversal method is best? > > This problem does not reduce to just reading row by row off of a matrix (I > hope you know what I mean) where the row and column headers are the > different vertices because if the graph is not connected and there are > cycles in either of the parts, it is unknown if one of the parts is inside > of another or not. > > -Leon >
Regarding the chemical naming, Latejami (and my Saweli) have been sort of waiting for a good solution to this problem. I've discussed it with Rick Morneau, and he in particular has asked for help from chemists (and other professionals) to help with the naming problem. The same holds for biological species naming, although he has a fairly clear idea of how to do that already, as discussed in his Reference Grammar. stevo </HTML>