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Re: Arabic Questions

From:J. 'Mach' Wust <j_mach_wust@...>
Date:Tuesday, September 28, 2004, 7:44
On Mon, 27 Sep 2004 15:44:09 EDT, David Peterson <ThatBlueCat@...>

>J. wrote: > ><<Voiceless glottal? I think this was about voiced pharyngeal. ??>> > >Someone had said that *my* description was that of a voiced [h], or [h\]. >I was trying to show that it wasn't, and conjecturing about how one might >have come to that conclusion.
How could I not see it!
><<Maybe your misunderstanding is based on you two having different notions >of the open back unrounded vowel [A], that is, Christian might think of it >having in mind the Züritüütsch example, while David might think of it >having in mind the English example. I'm not accusing anyone of being >unaware that the IPA/X-SAMPA/CXS vowels are intended to be describe >absolute qualities, but I just think we can't help being conditioned by our >native languages.>> > >I don't follow. Can you explain more? :)
An unsyllabic version of his [A] may be the same as a voiced version of his [h], while an unsyllabic version of your [A] may be the same as your [?\]. Of course, any [A] should be the same as any [A], but I suppose that normally these notions are heavily influenced by one's native language. kry@s: j. 'mach' wust