Re: Crosswords
| From: | Ingmar Roerdinkholder <ingmar.roerdinkholder@...> |
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| Date: | Saturday, May 31, 2008, 18:59 |
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What a coincidence! I didn't even know "crosswords" was an existing term in
conlanging, when I created Middelsprake about four years ago. Crosswording
is one of MS' characteristics. See the text below, from "Concise Outlines of
Middelsprake" (2004)
Ingmar Roerdinkholder
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Middelsprake/ is where you can find the whole
file
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A characteristic feature of Middelsprake are the so called
krysworde or cross words, which are not a kind of puzzles but
crossings between words that differ quite a lot in the source
languages, mostly between Scandinavian and Western Germanic forms
See chapter 12 for a few examples
12]*EXAMPLES OF CROSS WORDS:
Krysworde or cross words are the result of a crossing or mixing process
between words that differ quite a lot in the resource vocabularies, often with
the Western Germanic (German, English, Dutch etc)languages on one side and
the Scandinavian (Danish, Swedish, Norwegian) on the other.
Examples:
Western Germanic X Scandinavian => Middelsprake
Germ Engl Dutch
oder, or, of eller oller (or)
und, and, en og, och on (and)
water (wasser) vand, vatn, vatten watern (water)
Sonne, sun, son sol soln (sun)
schlafen, sleep, slapen sove, sova slove (sleep)
nicht, not, niet ikk(j)e, inte nik (not)
ich, I, ik (j)eg, jag ig (I)
Bär, bear, beer bjørn, björn bern (bear)
Wurzel, wortel, X root rod, rot rottel (root)
Schnee X snow, sneeuw sne X snö, snø sneo (snow)
fünf X five, vijf fem fimf (five)
Feld, field, veld mark feldmark(field)
wann, when X wanneer (hvor)når, när wanaer (when)
horse, hengst hest, häst herst (horse)
Bauch, buik, buuk mave, mage buukmaag(belly)
Wolke, wolk sky skuewolk(cloud)
Schatten, shadow, schaduw skygge, skugga skau (shadow)
Kinn, chin, kin hage, haka, hake kinhaak (chin)
Himmel, hemel X heaven himmel hevel (heaven)
NS heven
Bauer, boer, buur bonde, bunde burnd (farmer)
dunkel, dark, duister mørk, mörk dyrk (dark)
island, eiland ø, ö, øy oyland (island)
Marsch, marsh X moeras mose, myr morsch (marsh)
Kartoffel, potato, aard- kartoffel,potatis, potappel(potato)
appel/patat potet
klingeln, ring, rinkelen ringe, ringa ringele (ring, call)
antworten, answer svare, svara answorde(answer)
mögen, mogen kunne lide mag lide(like, appreciate)
Freund, friend, vriend ven, vän fren (friend)
Woche, week uge, vecka, veke woek (week)
nie, nimmer, never niver (never)
Ingmar
On Sat, 31 May 2008 19:36:41 +0100, R A Brown
<ray@...> wrote:
>Fredrik Ekman wrote:
>> On Sat, May 31, 2008 7:44 am, Tristan McLeay said:
>>
>>> Without intending to belittle Paul's achievements, I think most
>>> crosswords these days are made by computer.
>>
>> Depends. The ones you find in major newspapers, I would bet, are still
>> produced manually. Even (or perhaps especially) the "fancy symmetrical
>> ones".
>
>I'm quite sure they are, especially, as you say, the "fancy symmetrical
>ones."
>
>> That kind of crossword must have existed before there even were any
>> computers,
>
>It most certainly did!
>
>> and making a good one is considered an art by the connoisseurs.
>
>Yep. I've done this several times for my one amusement. Computers are
>very useful for doing complicated & repetitive stuff that one finds
>boring, but using a dumb machine for doing something one likes doing! No
>way.
>
>Leave it for unimaginative newspapers to use computers to set make their
>unimaginative crosswords.
>
>--
>Ray
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